Mayor and deputy mayor candidates questioned on big issues

Submitted by Jim Barber on October 12, 2014 – 2:49 pm

Greater Napanee mayoral candidates Gord Schermerhorn, left, and Robert Dorey took centre stage along with the deputy mayoral candidates at last Wednesday’s all-candidates meeting at the Strathcona Paper Centre. – Jim Barber photo

Jim Barber, Greater Napanee News                     

Thanks to a bold and effective new format, folks attending last Wednesday’s all-candidate’s meeting at the Strathcona Paper Centre in Napanee had a chance to hear the candidates vying for the top two elected offices in the municipality express their views and talk about their platforms and policies in greater depth than in similar meetings in previous election years.

This, combined with the new ‘open house’ opportunity to chat one-on-one with all candidates both before and after the formal part of the evening, allowed for more free-flowing discussion and a chance for voters to look their mayoral, deputy mayoral and individual ward candidates in the eye and ask probing questions as they work their way towards a decision as to whom will receive their vote during the Oct. 20 to Oct. 27 voting period.

A previous story looked at the presentations made by the candidates running in Wards 1 through 5, while this article will present the more formal part of the evening. The two candidates for mayor, incumbent Gord Schermerhorn and newcomer Robert Dorey, were joined on the stage by deputy mayor candidates Marg Isbester, currently a sitting member of council, and former L&A County Warden Gary Hartin.

They were asked a series of questions, which ended up being eight in all, by a media panel that included Greater Napanee News editor Jim Barber. The questions were gleaned from those presented by members of the public, as well as ones from the presenting organizations – the BIA, Chamber of Commerce and local Rotary Club – and from the journalists on the panel. They ranged from specific topics such as the desire for an aquatics centre, to general questions about affordable housing.

On the issue of a new indoor, municipally-owned and operated pool, all four candidates said they were in favour of the concept of it, and recognized there is a degree of need and community support for such a facility.

Schermerhorn said that one of the biggest questions is how the town is going to come up with the estimated $5 million to $6 million to pay for construction.

“There is only one taxpayer,” he said, adding that he does believe the town deserves a pool but how would the town not only build it, but also pay for its upkeep? He said a comparison would be the Henderson Recreation Centre in Amherstview which has a pool that costs $200,000 to run each year, but which brings in a little over half that in revenue, creating a deficit that would be borne by the taxpayers.

He also questioned the commitment of the supporters of the pool initiative for not being as active as the once were and that “there has to be a long-term commitment by pool users to make this work.”

Robert Dorey spoke next and challenged Schermerhorn’s statement that because of the disparity between the cost to run the pool and the revenue generated it’s not a good idea.

He brought up the fact that the Town of Greater Napanee already does this with its municipally-owned ballpark adjacent to the fairgrounds. He said that the cost each year to run and maintain the diamonds is $341,000, while they bring in less than $70,000 in revenue. So the precedent is there.

That being said, he did acknowledge that funding the construction of such a facility would be a formidable challenge but committed himself to exploring all avenues and taking a positive approach to acquiring funding or partnerships to get the pool built.

Isbester made the point that “no-one is under more pressure than I am to bring an aquatics facility to this town,” because of her family’s extensive involvement with swimming teams and programs that see them travelling to the new facility in Belleville several nights a week.

She said the development of a local facility has to be a “group effort and cannot be done on the back of taxpayers,” committing herself to work towards the goal of a year-round indoor pool if elected as deputy mayor.

Hartin said he believes having a pool is a good idea but that studies he has read show that Napanee does not have a large enough population base to make constructing a new indoor pool economically viable. That being said, he things council should set aside a reserve account and put money away each year towards the goal of building an aquatics facility.

The second question was also about a hot button issue for the town: if elected, would the candidates support a motion from council declaring Napanee as an unwilling host for any future landfill development or expansion. This is in reference to the ongoing debate over the proposed Beechwood Road Environmental Centre out at the current Richmond Landfill site.

Dorey said the case against any future development at that site seems “clear cut,” based on the science that has been done at the site. He said if elected he would propose and support “restating that we are an unwilling host,” but also initiate discussions within the community and around the council table regarding long-term solutions and alternatives for waste diversion.

Along similar lines, Isbester said she would also support restating the municipality’s unwilling host status but along with that ensure that the motion also includes council support for increasing diversion rates through programs like an organic waste program.

Hartin concurred with Dorey and Isbester and would support a motion of that type that if elected, as well as investigating waste reduction alternatives, including researching how such programs have been instituted in neighbouring municipalities.

After saying a motion was passed by council back in 2001, and that he believes rules of procedure of council preclude the restating of a motion, Schermerhorn said if one was brought forward re-declaring Greater Napanee as an unwilling host, he would support it.

The third question was more general and asked each candidate what they thought was the more pertinent issue and how they would deal with it.

Isbester said it was “helping businesses and residents continue to thrive in this community.”

Hartin spoke passionately about improving the number of affordable housing units, and said he would try to work with town staff and landlords in the downtown portion of the municipality to see if there is the possibility of increasing affordable housing.

Schermerhorn talked about how municipalities such as Greater Napanee need to get together to lobby the provincial government to revamp the current property assessment system, which he said is become far too burdensome for taxpayers.

“The province has to give us a different way of taxing people,” he said. “And they need to work to find another way to keep business in our province and municipality through a more fair taxation method.”

He said it’s important for the continued growth of the town to keep tax rates as low as possible. Schermerhorn said if re-elected he would continue to urge council to support the local businesses that are already here and attract new business to the community.

Dorey said all of the issues of major significance could be lumped under the banner of economic growth.

“Council has to work on bringing in new employers and support our own young entrepreneurs,” he said. “And we need to grow smartly. We can use the Official Plan to make sure the growth is balanced and not just in one area. We have to make sure commercial and residential areas grow in tandem.”

Dorey said he would be very active in working with the various area tourism agencies to promote Greater Napanee as a place to visit.

A fourth questions was about what council can do to keep policing costs in check, even if under the new costing formula Napanee would be getting a reduction from the current $4 million it pays.

Hartin said because policing is a provincial issue, that the municipality must work with other municipalities to keep policing costs down.

Schermerhorn said he and his fellow councillors have been frustrated because it’s “hard to get a handle on policing costs when you’re just handed a contract and told to pay it.”

“We have made presentations to the province about cuts to the police contract but also to change the way policing is done. Could they use civilian staff to do more paperwork, for example?” he said, ultimately requesting that municipalities such as Greater Napanee “get the right to negotiate our own contracts.”

Dorey gave credit for the work that has already been done by council and staff in lobbying the province and said he would continue those efforts in co-operation with other municipalities, if elected. He also said he would like to get feedback from the frontline officers here in down and also do some brainstorming with various stakeholders to come up with solutions to the increasing costs of policing.

Isbester admits that policing will continue to be one of the largest cost problems in the town’s budget, and she too would continue to lobby as part of a larger group of municipalities because “there is strength in numbers.”

“The problem has always been that policing is an expensive business that is also an essential service,” she said.

On the issue of voting at large, whereby the community would no longer be divided up into wards but would instead have all council candidates running to represent the whole community, with the top five vote getters earning seats around the table, three of the four candidates – Isbester, Schermerhorn and Hartin – said they would not be proponents of the new system as they feel the current ward system is working.

Dorey said he is on the fence on the issue and that he would at least encourage a discussion of the issue amongst residents and council if elected.

Where each candidate sees the importance of heritage as part of the town’s future planning and growth was the next question with all four praising the work of the current municipal Heritage Committee and the importance of recognizing and preserving all aspects of Greater Napanee’s heritage.

Dorey said one of the reasons people pull off the highway to explore a community is to see it’s heritage buildings and landscapes and that the municipality needs to leverage its history to draw in new visitors. He also would like to see the expansion of parks and green spaces in and around heritage buildings and that it’s also important to preserve and promote the heritage aspects of all parts of Greater Napanee from Roblin down to Adolphustown.

Isbester has sat on the town’s Heritage Committee for the past term and lauded the work of the committee in the way it has catalogued heritage buildings and landscapes as well as provided a program of plaquing designated and listed buildings.

“We need to continue to develop incentives, grants, and loans to help property owners improve and preserve their heritage properties, as we have down downtown with the Street Smarts program over the years,” she said.

Hartin, in also praising the work of the committee, summed up the importance of heritage thusly: “Heritage is something where if you don’t know where you’ve come from, you are going to have a tough time seeing where you are going.”

Schermerhorn talked about how council has been supportive of the initiatives of the Heritage Committee over the last term and how it’s a “great asset to the community.” He also said that he hopes that whatever happens with the vacant Gibbard factory that the façade should be left alone, and that he is adamant that the new Napanee Area Community Health Centre building downtown fit in with the current streetscape and tone of the rest of downtown.

On the subject of affordable social housing for Greater Napanee, Isbester said the municipality may need to look at development fees or other sorts of policies that would encourage building owners and developers to incorporate an affordable housing component to any of their developments.

“And Habitat for Humanity has made a pitch to use and I think we need to look at it,” she said.

Hartin repeated his contention that working with landowners and landlords in the downtown to create affordable housing units would be something he would advocate for if elected deputy mayor. He would also look at possibly developing built-up areas in the smaller villages within the town’s borders.

Schermerhorn, who is also the current Warden of Lennox & Addington County, said the real problem is getting contractors and developers to buy into any programs and incentives offered by the town to build affordable units.

“It’s definitely a problem. We do have people in our municipality who need housing,” he said, adding that the province needs to step back in to the social housing game, saying that when that program was downloaded to the county governments during the 1980s, it has meant onerous costs to the likes of L&A County.

Dorey said while there is no easy solution he would like to see mixed-income developments be part of every subdivision plan and to use whatever development charges, tools or tax incentives are within the municipality’s disposal to achieve this.

“Having space for lower income homes improves the well-being of the whole community,” he said.

The eighth and final question of the formal portion of the all-candidates meeting was whether land that is currently zoned agricultural, but is being used for either a wind turbine development or solar farm, needs to be rezoned industrial and thus be taxed at a higher rate.

Hartin believed that should happen since these enterprises are often placed on what would normally be high-quality agricultural land, and are an industrial operation. He also feels there is no need to place wind turbines on the land at all and would be better out in Lake Ontario.

Schermerhorn was adamant in his opposition to the concept of putting wind and solar farms on prime farmland in theory or in practice, but if they are coming, agreed they need to be taxed as industrial lands.

Dorey didn’t answer the question specifically but commented more on the fact that the province has too much control over where, when and how these developments are built, often against the wishes of the host municipality and it’s residents, and that councils should have more control over these sorts of projects.

“The Green Energy Act had good intentions but it has been pitting neighbour against neighbour, and that’s not a good thing for a community,” he said. “I would like the province to look at other energy production methods as well.”

Isbester said she would push to have them placed within the highest municipal tax rate, especially if they are going to be imposed on a municipality.

“I really hate to see farmland scarred with wind turbines and solar farms,” she said.

After closing statements, the four candidates returned to the floor of the Lafarge Banquet Hall and continued to talk with voters in amongst the ward candidates for some time after the formal portion of the evening came to a close.

For more information on the municipal election, including ensuring you are on the voters’ list and how to participate in the new paperless balloting system, visit http://www.greaternapanee.com/en/townhall/2014election.asp